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It was Labour, under Tony Blair, who expanded PFI to levels unseen and crippled our NHS with a generation of privately financed debt that makes dodgy PPE deals to Michelle Mone look like pocket money.

Romford Councillor David Taylor today shares his Taylor Talks column in the Havering Daily.

 In August 2015, Jeremy Corbyn wrote an article in The Guardian that caught my eye, even as someone who is a devout Conservative and has worked at the heart of Conservative HQ. 

 “We have a duty”, Corbyn said, “… to remove the toxic burden of the private finance initiative from our NHS”. 

 Our NHS is facing a debt crisis, it’s a generational debt that is costing our local NHS trust over £50m a year, it is a crisis where the NHS is paying up to 10% interest on finance at a time when the government could borrow at just 5%. 

 Private Finance Initiatives (PFI) are a national scandal and they have crippled our NHS. Walk into Queens and ask yourself some questions. Specifically, as yourself what it could do with an extra £50m a year?

 It’s not often that I find myself in agreement with a Labour leader, let alone Jeremy Corbyn. It’s also very risky for me to even write, “I agree with Jeremy”, given what’s going on right now (psst, there’s an election). But sometimes we have to put aside our lazy political allegiances and ask ourself what’s best for the country. Sometimes, we need to look across the political divide and say “Not everything they say is wrong”. Grown-up politics. 

So ,what is PFI, how much do we have, why do I dislike it, and what’s being done about it? 

Good questions. 

 PFI is a way to get new infrastructure without stumping up the cash up front. Private firms are called in to design, build, and run facilities such as schools or hospitals. This is how Queens was built. 


Queens was constructed by Bovis Lend Lease under a £261m PFI agreement. It was handed over to the local NHS trust in 2006 (remember that date) and it came with a 36 year agreement. This means that, until 2042 it is a combination of banks and a private firm who decide what is best for Queens when it comes to how it operates. 

 The IPPR, an independent charity which campaigns for the NHS, described in 2019 that “there are £3bn worth of critical maintenance issues unresolved [in the NHS]”. These include fire safety hazards, sewage leaks, falling ceilings, things that pose a genuine danger. It is the responsibility of these PFI firms to fix these. 

In 2018 the British Medical Journal estimated that the NHS will pay out a total of £275bn, just based on the existing PFI deals. For comparison, NHS England had day to day spending over £155.1bn in 2022/23. 

 Many PFI deals are signed in such a way that the company benefiting from them makes around 8-10% return a year. That’s 8-10% profit, to a private company, from our NHS. What’s even more scandalous about this is that the government, even during Covid, was able to borrow at 5% interest. So, we’re paying twice as much interest as we need to and it’s going to private companies who are leaving our hospitals full of sewage leaks. 

 According to The Guardian, the interest on these loans could fund 15,000 new nurses. 

 Do you think 15,000 new nurses would be great? I do.

 

You may find it odd, at this point, that a Conservatives Cllr is writing an article condemning the privatisation of the NHS and agreeing with Jeremy Corbyn. Don’t worry, I have also pinched myself a lot to make sure this isn’t a fantasy. 

So, what’s my point? My point is that these deals exploded under Labour, Tony Blair to be exact. 

PFI was first invented by a Conservative government, that’s true. But their use skyrocketed when Labour were last in government. So we’ve got a Conservatives Councillor, agreeing with Jeremy Corbyn, during an election, accusing the Labour party of privatising the NHS. 

 What a world we live in. No, I’ve not taken any drugs. 

 Philip Hammond, when Chancellor in 2018, stopped future PFI deals. “I have never signed a PFI contract… and I never will”, he said. Even Sadiq Khan criticised the use of PFI debt, in 2015, acknowledging that our local NHS spends 11.3% of it’s income on repaying these deals. 

 Colin Leys, a retired professor in political economy told OpenDemocracy.net that “NHS reforms under Tony Blair were a significant milestone [in privatisation]”. Allyson Pollock, a clinical professor of public health at Newcastle University said, in her book The Privatisation of Our Health Care, “It’s nonsense to say it’s all down to George Osborne… each successive administration since the 90’s bears responsibility for the crisis”. 

 So, not one to disagree with professors, every government is to blame here. All political sides. 

 It was Labour, under Tony Blair, who expanded PFI to levels unseen and crippled our NHS with a generation of privately financed debt that makes dodgy PPE deals to Michelle Mone look like pocket money (which it isn’t, it’s criminal). But, my party also bears responsibility because we didn’t do enough about this. 

 That was, I believe, until Sunak. 

 As Chancellor, and during Covid, Rishi Sunak cancelled over £13bn of NHS debt. That’s not something we hear much about, but it’s a huge sum and we can’t ignore it. Under the Conservatives, under Rishi Sunak, the government finally began to acknowledge that the NHS is burdened by too much debt. 

 Cancelling the debt is one of the smartest things someone can do to support someone in need. It’s frees someone up to start again, to invest what they were spending. £13bn of cancelled debt is £13bn more to spend on fixing things and getting it back to where it needs to be. 

 I wish the Conservatives had cancelled the debt earlier. But, at least they are finally doing it (far far far before any election was called). 

 Conservatives ended PFI, and yet they still managed to deliver the new health hub at St George’s in Hornchurch. They have shown that the NHS can be invested into and grown without taking on £billions in private debt. This delivers better value for money for taxpayers than Blair’s NHS expansion.

 The Conservatives have promised to cut waste by reducing the number of NHS managers by 5,500, releasing £550m for frontline services instead. 

In 1944, when Churchill was Prime Minister, cinema goers were presented with a news announcement from the Conservatives Health Minister. 

 “Our plan is a service”, the minister said. “Whatever your income, if you want to use this service… there will be no charge for doing so. The National Health Service will include family doctors… medicines, specialist advice, and hospital treatment whatever the illness”. 

 Labour supporters will have you believe it was Labour who came up with the concept of the NHS. They are wrong, it was Churchill’s Health Minister and the evidence is there. 

 Labour supporters will tell you that only they can be trusted to run the NHS. 

 Jeremy Corbyn disagrees. 

 In 2002, at Labour Party Conference, the union UNISON tabled a motion calling on the Labour Party to end PFI deals and to review them. 65% of people backed the plan, but Labour carried on. 

 Much of the PFI debt is owned offshore, it generates massive profits for private companies and they avoid paying tax. 

 This isn’t the NHS that Nye Bevan dreamed of, and it isn’t the NHS we keep being told Labour love. 

 I agree with Jeremy Corbyn. It is time the Labour party faced up to the damage it did to our NHS, the massive privatisation and the huge debt it created. 

 Rishi Sunak has begun to fix that mess and cancelled debt. It’s come late, but it’s welcomed. 

 When we think who to vote for we should look at people’s history. Labour won’t face up to what they did, Rishi Sunak has begun to fix it. 

 I don’t trust Labour with our NHS.


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6 thoughts on “‘I don’t trust Labour with our NHS-Jeremy Corbyn was right about NHS debt’.

  • 8th July 2024 at 9:42 am
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    He talks about “small change” from the disgrace of the cronyism and corruption of COVID PPE contracts dished out to mates of Ministers and their donors. I don’t think £8 billion in unusable and overcharged PPE is “small change”.
    The Private Finance Initiative hospital projects did get very many hospitals built, but the City financial institutions were desperate to gouge super profits for the private sector.
    By the way, I recall Boris Johnson (remember him) in 2019 saying he had “oven ready” plans for 40 new hospitals. It’s 2024 now and not one has been delivered nor started. So I don’t think we can take any lessons from Tory politicians about the NHS that they left on its knees,

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    • 8th July 2024 at 10:54 am
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      Dear Ken.

      I don’t consider £8bn lost as small change. My piece only states that it appears small change in comparison to the NHS debt Labour have racked up.

      The NHS may be on it’s knees, but it is clear that it was Labour who cut it’s legs out beneath it and put it on its knees in the first place.

      £256bn of debt. How can anyone defend that?

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  • 8th July 2024 at 8:02 pm
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    I couldn’t agree more, the PFi projects were a complete fiasco. But, whilst the ‘almighty’ Jeremy Hunt may not have signed any PFI contracts, you failed to mention the 58 PFI contracts the Conservative Government signed off between April 2008 and April 2014. If you perceive £8bn appears as small change by way of comparison to the NHS debt, may I suggest you do a little bit of extra homework and provide the readers with both sets of figures to see how much each party has racked up. Probably considerably more for the Torys given the higher interest rates over the last 4 years.

    The one most important thing you have chosen to forget in all of this, at the end of each PFI contract, the people have something tangible to show for it. With £8bn wasted on useless PPE, there is nothing to show except a few ashes, if we are lucky. Actually, that’s not strictly true, there is something to show for it, the fat wallets of the criminal Tory toffs who were allowed to get away with it. Just another scandal to add to the long list of Tory scandals; plus, that £8bn would have bought a lot more than 15,000 new nurses!

    Having just taken a well-deserved beating in the elections four days ago, haven’t you learned something from that? The public have had 14 years of the Tory waffle, ‘we’ll tell you what we want to tell you and leave out the most important bits’. Wake up and smell the coffee, if you’re going to tell a story, try telling the whole story not just the bits you think you want us to know. We’ve had enough of it. We can, and have, seen right through the BS. Shame the you can’t understand that.

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    • 8th July 2024 at 8:20 pm
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      My apologies. Don’t know how Jeremy Hunt got mixed up with Philip Hammond. Please substitute Philip Hammond for Jeremy Hunt in my comments above. Leo

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    • 9th July 2024 at 9:39 am
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      Hi Leo, thank you for your response. A lot to address in it, I’ll do my best.

      First, I don’t consider £8bn small change. As stated in reply to the other comment, I say that it looks small change in comparison to the cost of the NHS PFI deals.

      Yes, the Conservatives did sign some PFI deals. However, as pointed out by blogger Jon Chadwick, the value of these was minute in comparison to those signed under Labour. A quick total of the maths leave us with capital value of around £88bn under Labour to about £1bn under Conservatives.

      You can read Mr Chadwick’s blog and graphs at https://jon-chadwick.com/2019/10/27/the-end-of-nhs-pfi-again/

      On to the next bits, where you lazily make a number of presumptions about me. Firstly, I’m well aware of why people rejected the conservatives. They are sick of lies, corruption, sex pests and scandals. The likes of Boris Johnson destroyed the party and destroyed public trust in politicians. I’ve been publicly vocal on that and will continue to be. Your assumption that I think otherwise couldn’t be further from the truth.

      I’ve also, publicly, condemned Michelle Mone as a Criminal and scolded my party for allowing that scandal to happen.

      You can make accusations that I’m not telling the whole story. But that’s absurd. To tell the ‘whole story’ I’d need THD to hand me their entire publication for 50 years. What I have done is provided a concise, factual, outline of the PFI situation. What I’ve also done is make reference to the £8bn, which many many political commentators would totally ignore. The fact I even reference it, the fact I call it criminal, and the fact that I say my party didn’t do enough is miles more than most people in my position would do.

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      • 9th July 2024 at 9:58 am
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        As I said in my comments, at least the the PFI’s have given us something tangible. What are we going to get back for the $8bn on wasted PPE? NOTHING! And no Tory ‘criminal’ involved in the PPE scandal will go to prison. The establishment will see to that.

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